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Paul Villinski
January 21st 17, 04:01 AM
Just as a "hypothetical," say one wanted to relocate to Canada for a period of, say, four years or so -- maybe eight, maybe permanently.... And one owns a glider registered in the Experimental, Racing and Exhibition Category. Are there issues bringing this along? Can it be flown there with US registration for a period, and/or, can it be registered in Canada?

Always good to have a Plan B.

George Haeh
January 21st 17, 04:09 PM
As long as you don't move to Canada, you can operate your US registered
glider in Canada as long as you want. Once you become a permanent
resident, the limit is 90 days in the previous 12 months.

CAR 202.42 applies.

http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/sor-96-433/

Many US gliders registered experimental have Canadian type certificates;
which require an expensive type conformity inspection. Some mods may
have to be removed.

Be very careful who you use for this inspection. I know one owner who got a

$10,000 bill.

I used Fox One Corp the second time around. Very reasonable and Dave
knows what he's doing.

http://www.foxonecorp.com/index.php/aircraft-import-brokering

Watch out for taxes. You might get exempted under "settlers effects".

Normally you get stuck for 5% GST + provincial 8% give or take. Move to
Alberta where the provincial rate is 0%.

Then there's the trailer. If less than 15 years old, you get to deal with
the
Registrar of Imported Vehicles. That's just a couple hundred bucks provided

the trailer is eligible. Then you get to deal with the province to get a
plate.
Hint - move to Alberta.

Consider flying in Canada May, June, July and skedaddling the glider back
to
the US the rest of the year. That or figure out how long Canadian
Immigration
rules permit you to visit Canada in a year.

Mind you if you plan to work in Canada, you have to apply for permanent
residence.

Andrzej Kobus
January 21st 17, 10:55 PM
On Saturday, January 21, 2017 at 10:15:07 AM UTC-5, George Haeh wrote:
> As long as you don't move to Canada, you can operate your US registered
> glider in Canada as long as you want.

Only if a glider is NOT registered in the US as experimental. If it is experimental you need TC approval.

Once you become a permanent
> resident, the limit is 90 days in the previous 12 months.
>
> CAR 202.42 applies.
>
> http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/sor-96-433/
>
> Many US gliders registered experimental have Canadian type certificates;
> which require an expensive type conformity inspection. Some mods may
> have to be removed.
>
> Be very careful who you use for this inspection. I know one owner who got a
>
> $10,000 bill.
>
> I used Fox One Corp the second time around. Very reasonable and Dave
> knows what he's doing.
>
> http://www.foxonecorp.com/index.php/aircraft-import-brokering
>
> Watch out for taxes. You might get exempted under "settlers effects".
>
> Normally you get stuck for 5% GST + provincial 8% give or take. Move to
> Alberta where the provincial rate is 0%.
>
> Then there's the trailer. If less than 15 years old, you get to deal with
> the
> Registrar of Imported Vehicles. That's just a couple hundred bucks provided
>
> the trailer is eligible. Then you get to deal with the province to get a
> plate.
> Hint - move to Alberta.
>
> Consider flying in Canada May, June, July and skedaddling the glider back
> to
> the US the rest of the year. That or figure out how long Canadian
> Immigration
> rules permit you to visit Canada in a year.
>
> Mind you if you plan to work in Canada, you have to apply for permanent
> residence.

January 22nd 17, 04:02 AM
Check your Experimental Operating Limitations..........my Sept, 1999 limits contain the following:
The owner/operator of this aircraft must obtain written permission from another country's Civil Airworthiness Authority (CAA) prior to operating this aircraft in or over that country. The written permission must be carried aboard.........
JJ

Ben[_8_]
January 22nd 17, 04:45 AM
On Saturday, January 21, 2017 at 8:02:28 PM UTC-7, wrote:
> Check your Experimental Operating Limitations..........my Sept, 1999 limits contain the following:
> The owner/operator of this aircraft must obtain written permission from another country's Civil Airworthiness Authority (CAA) prior to operating this aircraft in or over that country. The written permission must be carried aboard.........
> JJ

Did you all notice that the original posting vanished and the individual was thinking of a move for 4 or perhaps 8 years and it was posted on RAS on inauguration day in the US? What a truly amazing coincidence...I do believe this person should definitely be given the opportunity of moving to Canada.....

Frank Whiteley
January 22nd 17, 05:53 AM
On Saturday, January 21, 2017 at 8:45:20 PM UTC-7, Ben wrote:
> On Saturday, January 21, 2017 at 8:02:28 PM UTC-7, wrote:
> > Check your Experimental Operating Limitations..........my Sept, 1999 limits contain the following:
> > The owner/operator of this aircraft must obtain written permission from another country's Civil Airworthiness Authority (CAA) prior to operating this aircraft in or over that country. The written permission must be carried aboard.........
> > JJ
>
> Did you all notice that the original posting vanished and the individual was thinking of a move for 4 or perhaps 8 years and it was posted on RAS on inauguration day in the US? What a truly amazing coincidence...I do believe this person should definitely be given the opportunity of moving to Canada....

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